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Let’s Get Real or Let’s Not Play, by Mahan Khalsa – one of Kim’s recommendations

Check out our Appetizer episode here where we talk about Mahan’s technique for avoiding project “yellow lights”


Crucial Conversations – one of Kate’s favorites

Learn how to have difficult conversations – successfully.